View Full Version : Tina Lives! Engine is NOT blown
diablesse
08-18-2009, 02:09 PM
So as many of you know. I've recently been bemoaning the demise of my beloved Tina (my 996 Carerra 2).
Last Friday, I was in MD visiting the dear old sis when I decided to drive 2 miles down the street to get a hair cut.
I pulled out of her complex without issue, but a few yards down the road, my pesky heat shield squeak (of many months) turned to a rattle. Stupidly, I figured a slight tap of the accelerator might knock whatever came loose, off.
I blipped my throttle to maybe 5K and heard popping - kinda like hitting rev limiter, except I was nowhere near that. After that, the engine sounded like crap. Like it was misfiring badly and I could hear more rattling in higher rpms, and the car lost power upon trying to accelerate. Horrid, horrid noises! And then, while trying to get it on a flat bed, it started blwoing massive amounts of oil.
Anyways....the car got towed to Sarli Motorsports where the incomprable Ben is now taking care of Tina. I've been having nightmares all weekend about having to rebuild my motor or having to find a new one altogether. Sucks, cause Tina has been running like a champ lately.
Well I just got a call from Ben. Turns out a frigging spark plug shot out, hit the valve cover and disentegrated the plastic tubing that seals/connectes it to the engine (a plastic tube connected to the coil pack). The tube got sucked down into the engine. Yikes! Ben has been able to recover 80% of the pieces. He is waiting on a borescope to see if there is anything else big inside. He is hoping that the pieces left were small enough to be demolished by the chain etc. (I dunno, I'm quoting here) and that we won't need to pull the valve cover off.
The point is the engine isn't dead!!! YAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAYYYY!!!!
And even if the valve cover comes off, it's good excuse for me to get those Evolution Motorsports headers on. So I'm pretty happy.
The moral of the story is, don't let Dan diffbreaker drive your car.
http://photos-e.ak.fbcdn.net/hphotos-ak-snc1/hs153.snc1/5689_114859344262_790489262_2272948_2123636_n.jpg
ibrennan
08-18-2009, 02:11 PM
i'm just glad your old boyfriend is going to pay for it and not me
Chris
08-18-2009, 02:14 PM
Hahahahaha! You peaced out so fast when I told you I was going to have her call you next time she was upset!
I'm glad Tiniqua is okay!
diablesse
08-18-2009, 02:15 PM
Hahahahaha! You peaced out so fast when I told you I was going to have her call you next time she was upset!
hahaha
I can't help it if you bring the super bitch out in me.
no, moral of the story is don't buy a porsche and stick with BMWs!
diablesse
08-18-2009, 02:20 PM
no, moral of the story is don't buy a porsche and stick with BMWs!
yeah? So what's the status on that brand new M3 you guys broke...I dunno, how many months ago???
yeah? So what's the status on that brand new M3 you guys broke...I dunno, how many months ago???
better faster stronger i believe
bmw diffs suck
diablesse
08-18-2009, 02:23 PM
better faster stronger i believe
bmws suck
hahahaha
corrected
ibrennan
08-18-2009, 02:25 PM
better faster stronger, not funded by dan or BMW NA
better faster stronger, not funded by dan or BMW NA
yeah i learned my lesson after the viper curb smash, even if i pay for it i still get shit
diablesse
08-18-2009, 02:34 PM
Viper curb smash???
Viper curb smash???
great, here comes another story
first time i drove the viper i tried to parallel park it and backed into a curb, curbing the whole wheel more than anyone could ever think possible
thanks for spotting me, ian
diablesse
08-18-2009, 02:40 PM
can we do a llist of all the car damage you are responsible for?
Directly and indirectly?
I'll start
1. M3 diff demolished
2. Tina magical shooting spark plug
can we do a llist of all the car damage you are responsible for?
Directly and indirectly?
I'll start
1. M3 diff demolished
2. Tina magical shooting spark plug
3. viper wheel
but mike blew the engine on the lotus, so mines not as bad
BoostedCayenne
08-18-2009, 02:59 PM
Congrats!!! glad to hear tina will still live with her original motor
Forged internals????????
and i still think we should hi-jack someones 996tt motor
diablesse
08-18-2009, 03:00 PM
and i still think we should hi-jack someones 996tt motor
I still think YOU should get one - with the chasis
BoostedCayenne
08-18-2009, 03:05 PM
I still think YOU should get one - with the chasis
hehe, I think I would have to go 997 ........
diablesse
08-18-2009, 03:10 PM
either way, get a turbo carerra already!
For the time being, I have to live out my dreams of forced induction vicariously through you.
Chris
08-18-2009, 03:25 PM
If you are going 997, you might as well go GT3 or GT2 buddy!
Very lightly used 997 GT2 sitting at main line Porsche. 175k. Be a baller Geiger!
In related news, decided not to pick up that C2S despite it being white with red leather. Chris had it exactly right, for that kind of money I should go turbo or GT3.
NickyBlack
08-18-2009, 06:37 PM
GT3 hands down folks.....
Saw one at the dealer last week, simply gorgeous and stoopid handling to boot.
chinaonnitrous1
08-18-2009, 07:59 PM
GT3 hands down folks.....
Saw one at the dealer last week, simply gorgeous and stoopid handling to boot.
So wait,
that squeak squeak, was a spark plug about to fly out of the engine?!
All I know is, if I was driving it on the 1st day from Philly ~ Georgia, and that happend.
I woulda just caught a flight home :hang:, and probably cry too.
PowerLabs
08-21-2009, 01:57 PM
Ouch at the ejecting spark plug... Hopefully all the threads are allright!
Can't wait to see what she sounds like with the headers :D
diablesse
08-21-2009, 02:06 PM
So wait,
that squeak squeak, was a spark plug about to fly out of the engine?!
All I know is, if I was driving it on the 1st day from Philly ~ Georgia, and that happend.
I woulda just caught a flight home :hang:, and probably cry too.
I'm not sure if I just mistook the heat shield squeak for the new problem - the rattling spark plug, or if the squeak WAS the spark plug problem. Either way, I wouldn't have blamed you. I would have blamed Dan.
Ouch at the ejecting spark plug... Hopefully all the threads are allright!
Can't wait to see what she sounds like with the headers :D
Thanks! The headers only go on if they have to go fishing in the engine for more pieces though. It's a toss up. It would be cool to get the headers on, but it would be nicer if they didn't have to crack the engine open.
BoostedCayenne
08-21-2009, 02:14 PM
It would be cool to get the headers on, but it would be nicer if they didn't have to crack the engine open.
yeaaa good point, bc your headers are doing alot of good collecting dust in the garage.......:roflpicard::roflpicard:
diablesse
08-21-2009, 09:39 PM
good point, but princeton porsche said the last set of bolts they undid on a 99 took them 24 hours of labour.
miss.blueberry
08-22-2009, 10:54 AM
All the places in Princeton seem to take that long.
PowerLabs
08-22-2009, 12:26 PM
good point, but princeton porsche said the last set of bolts they undid on a 99 took them 24 hours of labour.
I was at Princeton Porsche some time ago and really wasn't very impressed with them as a dealership... Have you tried the other dealership off US-1 by Edison? I liked that place a lot better.
24 hours for a header install is ridiculous. You could pull the motor, use a bolt extractor on all bolts, and put the motor back in in less time than that...
diablesse
08-22-2009, 01:47 PM
I loved Princeton Porsche. Great dealership. Very helpful and accomodating. Last time I went there, they had me in and out in record time.
lol. Have you ever had to deal with seized bolts?
24 hours is NOT an unusually long amount of time for that job. It has to do with the stock bolts being stuck in there. I've talked to several other porsche mechanics and owners who said the same thing. Even Evolution Motorsports, the manufacturer of the headers, was not surprized.
On my car, PT and Chris tried to get the bolts off of the stock header and the heads of the first three snapped off. It seems (also the diagnosis of Princeton and the mechanic where Tina is now) that all the bolts will have to be tapped out.
Maybe it takes less time on a pos domestic :)
PowerLabs
08-22-2009, 06:04 PM
I loved Princeton Porsche. Great dealership. Very helpful and accomodating. Last time I went there, they had me in and out in record time.
lol. Have you ever had to deal with ceased bolts?
24 hours is NOT an unusually long amount of time for that job. It has to do with the stock bolts being stuck in there. I've talked to several other porsche mechanics and owners who said the same thing. Even Evolution Motorsports, the manufacturer of the headers, was not surprized.
On my car, PT and Chris tried to get the bolts off of the stock header and the heads of the first three snapped off. It seems (also the diagnosis of Princeton and the mechanic where Tina is now) that all the bolts will have to be tapped out.
Maybe it takes less time on a pos domestic :)
Not driving a pos domestic, I wouldn't know... I'd use "pos" to describe a car in which every bolt is seized though, but that's just me :rofl: Its been a while since I worked on something old enough have fastners that had seized up, my memory may not be so good there :).
Interestingly enough though, the last car I had to deal with this on was not a domestic, but rather my first car ever, a 1999 Subaru;) Some of the bolt heads snapped off so I soaked them in PB-Blaster, drilled into the bolts, hammered an EZ-Out into them, and backed them off with the EZ-Out. It took a couple minutes, but then again I wasn't getting paid by the hour to do it, but rather needed it done in time for an autocross, so the motivation to do it quickly was different... Bolts on that car snapped at the hub, exhaust, and suspension components. Almost everything on it was modded (down to a complete engine swap) so I was always working on one thing or another.
Good luck though, all joking aside I really do hope you get those headers on :)
Not driving a pos domestic, I wouldn't know... I'd use "pos" to describe a car in which every bolt is seized though, but that's just me :rofl: Its been a while since I worked on something old enough have fastners that had seized up, my memory may not be so good there :).
Interestingly enough though, the last car I had to deal with this on was not a domestic, but rather my first car ever, a 1999 Subaru;) Some of the bolt heads snapped off so I soaked them in PB-Blaster, drilled into the bolts, hammered an EZ-Out into them, and backed them off with the EZ-Out. It took a couple minutes, but then again I wasn't getting paid by the hour to do it, but rather needed it done in time for an autocross, so the motivation to do it quickly was different... Bolts on that car snapped at the hub, exhaust, and suspension components. Almost everything on it was modded (down to a complete engine swap) so I was always working on one thing or another.
Good luck though, all joking aside I really do hope you get those headers on :)
Get back to us when your pos domestic is a couple years old, son! At least her car doesn't have a chevy logo on it ;)
PowerLabs
08-22-2009, 07:27 PM
Get back to us when your pos domestic is a couple years old, son! At least her car doesn't have a chevy logo on it ;)
Sorry to disappoint, but I'm buying a newer one next year... It'll most likely have a Chevy logo since I haven't found a cheaper way to daily drive race bred 600RWHP... If you can think of one though, I'm all ears! ;)
Sorry to disappoint, but I'm buying a newer one next year... It'll most likely have a Chevy logo since I haven't found a cheaper way to daily drive race bred 600RWHP... If you can think of one though, I'm all ears! ;)
Stop being cheap and go for quality!
Anyway, why not get a saab. They're bred from jets.
PowerLabs
08-22-2009, 10:55 PM
Stop being cheap and go for quality!
Anyway, why not get a saab. They're bred from jets.
Because Saabs are slow as shit?
diablesse
08-22-2009, 11:20 PM
Thanks Sam :)
we did really try to get those bolts off. It seems to be a regular problem with the older porsches. Those stock bolts just don't want to come out. I'm not arguing too much though. Leaky rear main seals are a known issue of those cars so I'm not too upset with my some of bolts being snugly in place.
What do they say? "A 911 that doesn't leak oil is out of oil"
hahahaha
crazyvolvo
08-23-2009, 11:30 AM
Because Saabs are slow as shit?
0-60 slow but in 2nd gear acceleration from 40-70 its a fun ride at least the 9-5 Aero's
But in truth the fwd handling sucks and seats aren't the best.
miss.blueberry
08-23-2009, 11:46 AM
I like lamps.
diablesse
08-23-2009, 12:47 PM
But in truth the fwd handling sucks and seats aren't the best.
Aren't the best how?
Seat comfort is overrated. hahahaha
God Father
08-23-2009, 03:55 PM
Sounds like a stand "THIS FUCKING SUCKS" type of problem. As Plabs said, you drilling the old studs out and possibly retapping the threads is what seems to be in order.
Sucks, good luck.
chinaonnitrous1
08-23-2009, 04:00 PM
Aren't the best how?
Seat comfort is overrated. hahahaha
Its only overrated when your butt goes numb 30 mins into a drive. :rofl::rofl::rofl:
Just kidding, they were surprisingly comfortable.
crazyvolvo
08-23-2009, 08:37 PM
Aren't the best how?
Seat comfort is overrated. hahahaha
Comfortwise. Comfort is over rate for some. When I drive I am either going for a quick 5 minute run the store or I am on the highway for 6-7 hours so comfort wins in my book
MPD47
08-23-2009, 11:27 PM
Alicia, your car is quick and sounds great. Handles well on the track and is fun to drive. Glad to hear the engine isn't blown, and doesn't suck like half the people in this thread. Don't bother with the headers.
:picard::hang:
Alicia, your car is quick and sounds great. Handles well on the track and is fun to drive. Glad to hear the engine isn't blown, and doesn't suck like half the people in this thread. Don't bother with the headers.
:picard::hang:
Agreed. Definitely fun to drive!
diablesse
08-24-2009, 12:45 PM
Awww.....thanks boys. You know I love hearing stuff like that :) :) :)
diablesse
08-24-2009, 01:10 PM
Just got the word. Tina is back on the road. Everything is fixed. yay!
ibrennan
08-24-2009, 02:44 PM
now i need the m3 back and we can send dan the bill together
diablesse
08-24-2009, 04:48 PM
Maybe we should put him on an installment plan. Cause we are nice.
Chris
08-24-2009, 05:50 PM
Just take a percentage of his future business earnings. That's what I did!
ultradriver10000
08-24-2009, 08:02 PM
Do you still have 3 bolt heads broke off!?
All the bolts come off with easy on my 97 vette.
We will see about the M3. I'll be putting the long tube headers on tomorrow, as well as pulling the front bumper, so I can install a new A/C condenser and drier.
She will be running straight open headers for about a week until I can get her into my friend's shop to make a new mid pipe. Fun Fun :)
diablesse
08-24-2009, 08:44 PM
She will be running straight open headers for about a week until I can get her into my friend's shop to make a new mid pipe. Fun Fun :)
Cause YOUR car needs to be louder...
hahaha
Chris
08-24-2009, 09:00 PM
Straight headers on an e36 m3 is most definitely NOT FUN!
Okay, maybe for a few minutes: http://m3.digital7.com/straight.wmv
This has to be like 7 years old at least.
TROLL
08-24-2009, 11:31 PM
^
or e46 m tree
Viper's neighbor did an open fly by and it sounded like a Honda getting sodomized.
Sidenote, that video scares me.
ultradriver10000
08-24-2009, 11:34 PM
Cause YOUR car needs to be louder...
hahaha
Oh not the corvette, that exhaust is perfect I'll never change it!
The M3 will be getting a different set up though. The M3 wasn't too loud before, but it will be interesting to see how it changes up.
Those open headers don't even sound that bad. I drove the vette open headers for a few weeks same thing, but the vette blows huge flames out of them haha.
ultradriver10000
08-27-2009, 02:43 AM
Ok putting long tubes on a e36 M3 sucks so many balls. The nuts came off fine, but then I had to go back and pull all the studs to allow the front header in. Right now the car is running open headers and it is so loud and annoying. I'm actually wearing my shooting hearing protection for the ride to work tomorrow.
diablesse
08-27-2009, 12:12 PM
hahahha
you must look great driving down the street like that
ultradriver10000
08-27-2009, 02:47 PM
hahahha
you must look great driving down the street like that
especially since I couldn't find my black ones, so I had to use my yellow ones...which anyone could clearly see even though my smoked windows. Sall good, picking up the car with the new mid pipe in 20 min
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